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are having meetings, we believe that it is adequate and completed. commissioner miguel: is there additional public comment? >> i just want to quickly address to of the objectives of the project. the one has to do with housing. let me show larry -- let me show you where this number comes from. it is the total development cost of the project. the $345 million/165 condos, it gets you above $2.5 million. that is what it will cost to
build. i also want to address the revenue of the poor. it will cost the city money. down here is a picture of the site. they are proposing one of the major sources of revenues. it will generate $40 million. they are entitled the term sheet all comes to the port. the environmental impacts are that if it ever comes to pass, if it were to happen, what recreation centers would have to be closed because of the loss of revenue? there are consequences to the
economics of this project. those have to be addressed. the are other sources of revenue that they claim don't exist. it is the other big reason for doing this. i want to suggest a couple of things need to be added. this is the fourth attempt to develop, does of the site. they tried in the 1950's and 1990's. the letters from former directors saying that the intention has always been to key the golden gate recreation center permanently their as community benefits. i would like to ask in the environmentally superior alternative, the developer has great rendering at his proposal. we're putting up a nice clear
do things. it is one of the most exciting places in the city during the summer. i would leave the city, because i have nowhere to go. >> i am showing the area along the waterfront. i tried calling of any -- up any eir that had an underground parking garages. there is no eir that has been developed with an underground parking garages along the waterfront. i tried.
and the redevelopment has none because they were all done before ceqa. there was an eir for a hotel that does not have an underground rock. parking is in the form of a turnaround area. what you have a 420 carbon rod that has excavation of 38-40 feet. the entire area that i was looking for -- and there is no soil drainage. this is going to be excavating into a site that is going to have 110,000 cubic yards of
soil. you will have sea level rises. the elevation his 0.95-0.91. it is basically at sea level. the sea level is rising. you're building a gigantic bathtub for a 420 car garages. the building has to keep the drug from popping up because the water level is so high. -- the garage from popping up because the water level is so high. there is no discussion of hydrology except for the archaeology of the old ships.
you cannot find any of this. it is totally missing a discussion of the impact of building an underground garage with sea level rising and a water cable that is already very high. this is an environmental issue, just not there at all. no eir's have ever been done for this kind of a situation. commissioner miguel: is there additional public comment? >> i just want to say that i oppose as is.
bicyclist can get hit. the recreation center is really important. my life pretty much stays east. i guess most of the folks stay east. look north of sixteenth. we are underserved, but we are sort of the atm for a lot of the things happening citywide. i oppose this. thank you. commissioner miguel: is there
additional public comment? if not, public comment is closed. commissioner antonini: thank you for your comments. i wanted to comment on those things that i did hear that had relationships to the eir, questions that need be answered. it may be something that the fifth is an analyzed completely, those entrances and if they are adequately of about. there are questions about the adequacy of the traffic analysis. there were a lot of comments on
the type of housing. there are questions about the recreational uses of the club. it would be open to residents. there are examples of that. the water displacement issue is one that is spoken to and it is mentioned as an impact. the analysis takes into account all the possibilities that might occur because of the -- and that
is probably about it on things that relate to the eir itself. commissioner sugaya: i will probably submit stuff and writing. -- in writing. one of the deficiencies, it could be done with respect to the announcements, and the that we get is a photograph and superimposes a building. it seems to me that it is
it is supposed to serve the neighborhood. more than one person has come forward and said there are people from all over the city coming here. i don't know if that is an appropriate discussion. but some consideration for that issue, and maybe take a look. i don't know if this is private or not. if we can see what the membership. commissioner borden: the follow- up to that thought, a new club specifically. if you look at projections between existing and that new facilities, whatever the impact will be is relative to a more
modern club. i think it is important to address the things the referenced like the underground drug and the water table. i am sure some of the statements about the section needs to be better examined looking at all of the actual impact on pedestrians. and looking at other sort of parking and strategies that might make sense for that area. otherwise, those were just a few things that i thought of. commissioner miguel: i think commissioner sugaya's comments about using more modern technology are quite well taken. i would welcome that. i will have written comments later, but just a few doubts. i do not think that the public trust with the hotel was
sufficiently analyzed. just a comment to those that were talking about the 1962 agreement with the golden gate center, that was superseded in 76 in exchange. in my mind, this project is driven by probably a couple of things, mainly by the ability to create a parking sufficient to service itself. my wife and i are at the farmers' market at 7:30 every saturday morning. our parking spot was taken away a couple of years ago, and other than a few motorcycle spaces, they have done nothing
to replace those bases. -- spaces. i disagree with the statements that this in anyway takes care of any of san francisco's housing needs. i have to agree with the comments, i think it may have been someone that said these are extremely expensive. i'd love you are talking about the dollar equivalent for the spaces, but it is based on the number of units, not the value and cost of the units. that is the way that that particular legislation was crafted. 34 units on the $2.5 million --
if they were a $600,000 and middle income type units. i really find a disparity in that ratio. i have to agree that the west side is an absolute mess. it is tragic for a main thoroughfare in san francisco. i have seen a number of plans that would take care of that. in a manner that the city is deserving of. that is somewhat aside from the particular project established in this.
>> if that is all, we can move on to public comment. at this time, members of the public may address the commission within the subject matter of the commission except agenda items. i have no speaker cards. commissioner miguel: public comments in written form can be submitted to the department until the close of business on august 15. is there any general public comment on the non-agenda items? public comment is closed. this hearing is concluded.
>> what if you could make a memorial that is more about information and you are never fixed and it can go wherever it wants to go? everyone who has donated to it could use it, host it, share it. >> for quite a great deal of team she was hired in 2005, she struggled with finding the correct and appropriate visual expression. >> it was a bench at one point.
it was a darkened room at another point. but the theme always was a theme of how do we call people's attention to the issue of speci species extinction. >> many exhibits do make long detailed explanations about species decline and biology of birds and that is very useful for lots of purposes. but i think it is also important to try to pull at the strings inside people. >> missing is not just about specific extinct or endangered species. it is about absence and a more fundamental level of not knowing what we are losing and we need to link species loss to habitat loss and really focuses much on the habitat. >> of course the overall mission of the academy has to do with
two really fundamental and important questions. one of which is the nature of life. how did we get here? the second is the challenge of sustainability. if we are here how are we going to find a way to stay? these questions resonated very strongly with maya. >> on average a species disappears every 20 minutes. this is the only media work that i have done. i might never do another one because i'm not a media artist per se but i have used the medium because it seemed to be the one that could allow me to convey the sounds and images here. memorials to me are different from artworks. they are artistic, but memorials have a function. >> it is a beautiful scupltural
objective made with bronze and lined with red wood from water tanks in clear lake. that is the scupltural form that gives expression to maya's project. if you think about a cone or a bull horn, they are used to get the attention of the crowd, often to communicate an important message. this project has a very important message and it is about our earth and what we are losing and what we are missing and what we don't even know is gone. >> so, what is missing is starting with an idea of loss, but in a funny way the shape of this cone is, whether you want to call it like the r.c.a. victor dog, it is listen to the earth and what if we could create a portal that could look at the past, the present and the future? >> you can change what is then missing by changing the software, by changing what is projected and missing. so, missing isn't a static
installation. it is an installation that is going to grow and change over time. and she has worked to bring all of this information together from laboratory after laboratory including, fortunately, our great fwroup of researche e-- g researchers at the california academy. >> this couldn't have been more site specific to this place and we think just visually in terms of its scupltural form it really holds its own against the architectural largest and grandeur of the building. it is an unusual compelling object. we think it will draw people out on the terrace, they will see the big cone and say what is that. then as they approach the cone tell hear these very unusual sounds that were obtained from the cornell orinthology lab. >> we have the largest recording of birds, mammals, frogs and insects and a huge library of
videos. so this is an absolutely perfect opportunity for us to team up with a world renown, very creative inspirational artist and put the sounds and sights of the animals that we study into a brand-new context, a context that really allows people to appreciate an esthetic way of the idea that we might live in the world without these sounds or sites. >> in the scientific realm it is shifting baselines. we get used to less and less, diminished expectations of what it was. >> when i came along lobsters six feet long and oysters 12 inches within they days all the oyster beds in new york, manhattan, the harbor would clean the water. so, just getting people to wake up to what was just literally there 200 years ago, 150 years ago. you see the object and say what
is that. you come out and hear these intriguing sounds, sounds like i have never heard in my life. and then you step closer and you almost have a very intimate experience. >> we could link to different institutions around the globe, maybe one per continent, maybe two or three in this country, then once they are all networked, they begin to communicate with one another and share information. in 2010 the website will launch, but it will be what you would call an informational website and then we are going to try to, by 2011, invite people to add a memory. so in a funny way the member rely grows and there is something organic about how this memorial begins to have legs so to speak. so we don't know quite where it will go but i promise to keep on it 10 years. my goal is to raise awareness and then either protect forests from being cut down or reforest
in ways that promote biodiversity. >> biodiverse city often argued to be important for the world's human populations because all of the medicinal plants and uses that we can put to it and fiber that it gives us and food that it gives us. while these are vital and important and worth literally hundreds of billions of dollars, the part that we also have to be able to communicate is the more spiritual sense of how important it is that we get to live side by side with all of these forms that have three billion years of history behind them and how tragic it would be not commercially and not in a utilitarian way but an emotio l emotional, psychological, spiritual way if we watch them one by one disappear. >> this is sort of a merger between art and science and advocacy in a funny way getting people to wake unand realize